Immigration FAQs

Technically, there are no objective guidelines for how much immigration is “excessive”, but the following are good guidelines. Immigration is excessive when:

• When immigrants aren’t assimilating, culturally, linguistically, economically, etc.
• It significantly increases the price of housing.
• It significantly increases the cost of living.
• Massive protests and riots regarding foreign affairs are occurring inside the country.
• It is causing traffic congestion.
• It is comparable to the birth rate, causing overpopulation, or if it contributes to population growth.
  • This contribution is measured relative to emigration, and it is sometimes called the migratory increase. The migratory increase equals immigration minus emigration.
  • Example: In 2022/2023, about 469k people immigrated to Canada and about 35k people emigrated from Canada. So, for 2022/2023: Migratory increase = Immigration - Emigration = 469k - 35k = 434k.
  • This migratory increase of 434k was very excessive. At the time, it was greater than the population of Victoria, British Columbia!
• When most immigrants have net negative social benefits to society.
• When it only benefits businesses and employers, but not the average citizen.

There are no objective guidelines on this either, but negative growth is okay, because populations can’t increase forever. A society must avoid excessive immigration.

See: “But Humanity Is Nowhere Close To Overpopulation” - Overpopulation FAQs.

Technically speaking, immigration always benefits some people. It also always disadvantages some people. The questions that we need to ask are:

• Who benefits from immigration? Why do they benefit?
• Who is harmed by immigration? Why are they harmed?
• Does immigration society benefit as a whole?
• Which types of immigration are best and worse for society as a whole?

Immigration tends to benefit employers and businesses, at least in the short-term. It also tends to harm people who are reliant on businesses, both short-term and long-term.

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Every applicant who wishes to become a citizen must pass the following requirements:

• There must be no predictable risk of overpopulation.
• The applicant must prove that they will provide greater social benefit to the country, than the least qualified citizens who apply for reproduction licenses.
• The applicant must have documents that are sufficient for confirming their identity.
• The applicant must have no criminal record and no arrest warrants from allied countries.
• The applicant must have attained a high school education, at minimum [for adults],
• The applicant must have a stable work history that demonstrates that they have skills that will help them thrive in the country’s economy [for adults].
• The applicant must pass a test showing that they understand all the laws of the country, as well as the historical background and values of the nation (for cultural unity and assimilation).
• The applicant must agree to fulfill all the responsibilities of becoming a citizen (taxes, drafting, jury duty?, etc).
• The applicant must be clear of any contagious diseases.

The country reserves the right to reject immigration/citizenship applications for any reason.

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Then they are forbidden from entering the country, but there should be no controversy on this. Immigration is supposed to benefit the native population, not the foreign population.

If this is true, then poorer economies are obviously in much greater need of an economic boost. Hence, it would make more sense for people who don’t like living in Western countries (e.g. leftists) to migrate to third-world countries to boost developing economies, rather than developed economies.

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1. This implies that mass immigration is a problem.
2. Leftists still aren’t reducing immigration. They’re increasing it.

Read More:

• The Marginal Immigrant - Anglo Tremilia.
• Increasing skilled immigration is a mistake - Arctotherium.
• National IQ is the Best Predictor of Economic Growth.
• Five Myths About Immigration And Economic Growth.
• Was I wrong about low-skilled immigration?: A response to critics - Aporia Magazine.
• Is “immigration” good for the economy? - Aporia Magazine.

• Immigration increases the supply of labor, which decreases wages, thus decreasing fertility even further.
• Immigrants also age. Why is Canada bringing in 100k parents and grandparents over the next 3 years?
• It’s not possible or sustainable for populations grow forever. Infinite growth is impossible for anything. Everything has to stop growing eventually, so the better solution is to fix the economy and culture, not to import more immigrants.
• There are plenty of policies that we could implement to increase Western fertility rates.
• People also say that we need to reduce climate change and carbon emissions. However, importing immigrants from developing countries would actually increase carbon emissions, not reduce them. If it’s important to reduce carbon emissions, then it makes more sense to reduce immigration from developing countries, not increase it.

Native Citizens will. Yes, this is a good thing.

That’s true, but illegal immigrants still receive lots of welfare, medical treatments, and other government services for free. It’s still better to not pay for them effectively through our taxes or through some other means, like through money printing, inflation, or something like that. There is no free lunch. Illegal immigrants are not a free lunch.

The left also doesn’t want illegal immigrants to remain as a permanent underclass. They don’t want them to occupy this lowest rung on the economic ladder forever, harvesting crops forever, and have their children harvest crops, and so on and so forth. They usually want these people to integrate into our society and become at least economically equal to us. If that’s the case, then wouldn’t they no longer want to harvest crops? It’s not a sustainable system.

– Paraphrased from: Blithering Genius, “The Case Against Mass Immigration”

Also, illegal aliens and immigrants need to eat too. Reducing immigration would partially reduce the demand for food, so it’s okay if it marginally reduces the supply of food.

Georgism would indeed encourage landlords to build more housing, but since Georgism would reduce the cost of living while raising the economic prosperity of the society, implementing Georgism in a country would raise the incentive for immigrants to migrate to the country (it would increase the “pull” factors for immigration).

Thus, Georgism should be implemented after enforcing a stricter immigration code, in order to avoid degrading the genome faster. Unfortunately, NRT will probably be easier to get into the Overton Window before EPC, even though we’d be better off with enforcing EPC (and immigration control) first.

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It’s also a demand problem. It takes a while to increase supply (of housing, etc), whereas demand can be reduced immediately and significantly.

No, we are a country of Americans, Canadians, Australians, British, etc. This is about putting the people who already live here first. Because that’s what a good country does.

Second, this argument ignores that most of the immigrants to the New World were from European countries. It was thus easier for the European immigrants to assimilate into New World countries like the United States. A similar outcome is not necessarily likely for immigrants from other countries.

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This relies on a Fallacy of Composition, which assumes that being able to help others implies that we can collectively help the entire world. A good country is supposed to put its citizens first. Its citizens deserve a better life more than the potential immigrants do.

Read More:

• What if leftist arguments on immigration were taken to their logical conclusion?
• Shouldn’t we help everybody?
• What is morality?

If the United States had to admit every single person in the world who would enter the United States if their had the means to get there, then they would have to admit a population that is larger than that of the entire United States. This is obviously unfeasible since it would completely disrupt the political stability, over-breach the country’s carrying capacity, and untold undesirable consequences.

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During the period of 1965 - 2021, an estimated 440,000 people per year emigrated from Africa; a total number of 17 million migrants within Africa was estimated for 2005.[1] The figure of 0.44 million African emigrants per year (corresponding to about 0.05% of the continent’s total population) pales in comparison to the annual population growth of about 2.6%, indicating that only about 2% of Africa’s population growth is compensated for by emigration.[2] – Wikipedia, “Emigration from Africa”

“The number of German recipients of welfare benefits has halved since 2010, while the number of foreign nationals receiving social assistance payments has doubled, government data has revealed.” “The data emerged from a response by Parliamentary State Secretary at the Federal Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs Anette Kramme to a request made by the Alternative for Germany (AfD) MP René Springer.” “It revealed that the number of German recipients of the citizens’ allowance had almost halved from 5.2 million in 2020 to 2.9 million as of February 2023. In contrast, foreign recipients of social benefits had doubled from 1.3 million people in 2010 to 2.6 million currently.”

– Immigrants Cost Germany 15.4 Billon Euros In Welfare Per Year.

This argument also doesn’t consider how although immigrants may be more willing to do jobs that native people don’t want to do, a lot of their costs are externalized onto the country’s locals, particularly if they receive welfare benefits, and they don’t pay enough taxes to make up for what they get back.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undocumented_immigrant_population_of_the_United_States
• https://immigration.procon.org/demographics-of-immigrants-in-the-united-states-illegally/

See:

• What are the effects of ethnic diversity on social stability?
• What are the effects of ethnic diversity on culture?
• Why does valuing diversity imply valuing discrimination?

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Twitter thread on example countries that are using immigration as a weapon against disloyal regions in their claimed territory: https://x.com/whyvert/status/1744079823314526358 Settler colonialism is trending. Some current examples.

1. China. Settled loyal Han in disloyal Xinjiang (from 90s). Settled 1m loyal mainlanders in disloyal Hong Kong. There’s also a road across Xinjiang’s Taklamakan desert China built to entice settlers.
2. Indonesia. Settled about 300k loyal Javanese in West Papua. Many around the giant Grasberg gold and copper mine, which had been a target of attacks by Papuan independence activists. The West Papuans are not pleased.
3. Morocco. Sent settlers to Western Sahara, which it has occupied since 1975. One source says Moroccans are now a majority of the half-million or so population. Image If Russia conquers Ukraine, or China conquers Taiwan, we can be sure that they will try to settle loyalists in their new territories.
4. Bangladesh. After defeating an insurgency (1970s-90s) by the local ethnic group in the Chittagong Hills, Bangladesh settled loyal Bengalis in the area.
5. Sri Lanka. During the civil war (1983-2009), the Sri Lanka government settled Sinhalese in Tamil areas as a loyal bulwark.
6. Iraq. In the 1960s to 2003, Iraq had a policy of Arabization of Kurdish areas. It burned Kurdish villages, deported the people, and settled Arabs, especially around the oil fields.

Ba’athist Arabization campaigns in northern Iraq - Wikipedia Two conclusions: (1) In recent times, the vast majority of settler colonialism has been in the non-Western world. (2) But it gets little attention because it is “brown-on-brown”. If whites aren’t involved, it’s invisible.

Related: Foreign Texans are keeping the state red, not making it blue.

No, worldwide immigration is not inevitable when governments use sufficient force to prevent immigration. Immigration isn’t economically necessary, especially for developed countries.

Also see: Is race-mixing into a “global race” inevitable?

This immigration policy wouldn’t explicitly favor some races over others because we advocate that all potential immigrants meet the same criteria for immigration status. It is inevitable that these criteria will implicitly favor some races over others, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. There are racial differences in average IQ and many other characteristics.

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Also, if we need about 3 immigrants per pensioner to balance out the ageing population problem, then what do we do when all our the current immigrants retire? Bring in more?

If the pension system depends on infinite growth, then it’s flawed and unsustainable. Kicking the can down the road while at the same time enabling harmful immigration practices doesn’t help anyone. A better solution would be to fix the pension/retirement system, increase the birth rate, and use limited and targeted immigration to fill the gaps of certain industries. It’s very difficult to engineer a society which fills the gaps everywhere. Have some immigration is not necessarily bad. Having immigration the increases the cost of living, depresses wages and the birth rate is.

See: Philosophy of Race FAQs.

See: Eugenics FAQs: For The Common Good.

See: Isn’t The Great Replacement Of White People Just A Myth?

Why shouldn’t the United States deport illegal immigrants? Why support illegal immigration, when we can support legal immigration instead? If you don’t want to deport illegal aliens, or even want to legalize them, then you de facto support illegal immigration continuing to be the main type of immigration.

How do we know that illegal immigrants are going to assimilate, not commit more crimes, etc? And why shouldn’t we deport them if current immigration is excessive, and the West is at risk of overpopulation?

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The statistics in this article are fabricated, cherry-picked garbage. Foreign immigration may benefit businesses and people with power, but current immigration to western countries is excessive. It certainly doesn’t benefit the average citizen.

Just look at Canada or Australia. Both countries currently have record high numbers of foreign immigration, and you’d be hard-pressed to find a typical middle class Canadian who would honestly vouch that they’ve been better off in the past few years than before.

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Statistics are often cited for that claim, but they tend to make the error of not examining crime rates by race. We know that some races commit more crimes than other (Blacks and American Indians), so that’s a major reason why native-born crime are higher than the crime rates of immigrants.

When trying to make an honest judgment on whether immigrants commit more crimes than the native-born population, it thus makes sense to divide crime rates by race. Most immigrants to the United States are usually Latin American, Middle Eastern, or Asian (South, Southeast, East, or Pacific Islander). The immigrant crime is higher than the native-born white crime rates. Hispanic crime also tends to get worse in the second generations.

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See: Mass Deportation Is Economically Sound, Logistically Feasible, And Could Be Accomplished In A Matter Of Years - Thuletide.

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Of course, it can.

Action against illegal immigration is a positive development, especially for the United States. However, it also distracts from how legal immigration is the biggest problem in most Western countries.